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 future  fight against anti blackness and whiteness same time  tip C.S. Soong

Apebass 29 points 2 years ago 

There's nothing dirty about agreeing with a single viewpoint of someone who considers themselves politically conservative. People have different views, that's a healthy society. This polarisation of politics, particularly in America, is very troubling.

[–]  [Deleted] 7 points 2 years ago 

There's such a thing as group mental health problems (collective narcissism, etc.) and the black and white/us-v-them thinking is textbook splitting.


take it circlejerk mod views blog 

reddit wayofthebern ,stupidpol, walkaway,rightwinglgbt, gendercritical ovarit, itsafetish , consumeproduct subredddrama, class first reduc, neoconssay,there supplements etc

tucker so many leftists on, nor right

nypst tlk to maga


bail grbr  rcsm pol


Apebass 29 points 2 years ago 

There's nothing dirty about agreeing with a single viewpoint of someone who considers themselves politically conservative. People have different views, that's a healthy society. This polarisation of politics, particularly in America, is very troubling.

[–]  [Deleted] 7 points 2 years ago 

There's such a thing as group mental health problems (collective narcissism, etc.) and the black and white/us-v-them thinking is textbook splitting.


https://www.reddit.com/r/IntellectualDarkWeb/comments/w6xfnq/why_are_all_corporations_left_wing/


https://abcnews.go.com/Business/companies-increasingly-politics-marketing-risks-experts/story?id=88238066


Marginalized groups and persons shouldn’t seek approval and affirmation from petite bourgeois/bourgeois majorities or aristocrat overlord politicians to justify their existences. They are just as self evidently normal as the majorities

By constantly seeking such approval and affirmation, marginalized groups and persons are unknowingly playing into hierarchies by making it falsely seem that the majority/politicians are better than them because they need to get their approval and affirmation and that is stigmatizing to those marginalized groups that they lower themselves by valuing such hollow shallow opinions from petite bourgeois/bourgeois majorities and political aristocrats 

Such rights are a hollow bandaid as long as hierarchies and patriarchies exist which make them outsiders by default no matter how many right ps, equity or equality they gain 

Who the f*ck are the ‘normies’ and political elites to think their approval and affirmation matters. They are no better or worse than any other person on Earth. I touch on this above (i.e positivity) and in the ethnicity racial section of this blog (like in the hierarchies of empathetic solidarity/ally part and protest part)

We need to devalue such faux power. We need to destroy the hierarchies including the Cissexist, Hetereosexist, white ethnocentric structures,  patriarchy/male patriarchy etc so people who are marginalized now  don’t need to seek approval or affirmation to justify themselves or their actions by ‘normies’ and aristocratic overlords  (since they won’t be seen as different). 


stupidpol transgenderism and glossary


fragile white redditor


https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/mq2vze/a_2nd_proud_boys_leader_has_been_exposed_as_an/

salon.com
https://www.salon.com › 2018/10/29
Harvard case could represent the end of racial bias in college admissions
Oct 29, 2018 — Colleges have also tried to employ racial quotas to make their campuses more reflective of society, but federal courts struck down the use ...

https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidpol/comments/tgtbtr/changeorg_petition_sponsored_by_milo_yiannopolous/


Contemporary commentators have highlighted situations in which toleration conflicts with widely held moral standards, national law, the principles of national identity, or other strongly held goals. Michael Walzer notes that the British in India tolerated the Hindu practice of suttee (ritual burning of a widow) until 1829. On the other hand, the United States declined to tolerate the Mormon practice of polygamy.[17] The French head scarf controversy represents a conflict between religious practice and the French secular ideal.[18] Toleration of the Romani people in European countries is a continuing issue.[19]


Modern definition[edit]

Historian Alexandra Walsham notes that the modern understanding of the word "toleration" may be very different from its historic meaning.[20] Toleration in modern parlance has been analyzed as a component of a liberal or libertarian view of human rights. Hans Oberdiek writes, "As long as no one is harmed or no one's fundamental rights are violated, the state should keep hands off, tolerating what those controlling the state find disgusting, deplorable or even debased. This for a long time has been the most prevalent defense of toleration by liberals... It is found, for example, in the writings of American philosophers John Rawls, Robert Nozick, Ronald Dworkin, Brian Barry, and a Canadian, Will Kymlicka, among others."[21]


Isaiah Berlin attributes to Herbert Butterfield the notion that "toleration... implies a certain disrespect. I tolerate your absurd beliefs and your foolish acts, though I know them to be absurd and foolish. Mill would, I think, have agreed."[22]


John Gray states that "When we tolerate a practice, a belief or a character trait, we let something be that we judge to be undesirable, false or at least inferior; our toleration expresses the conviction that, despite its badness, the object of toleration should be left alone."[23] However, according to Gray, "new liberalism—the liberalism of Rawls, Dworkin, Ackerman and suchlike" seems to imply that "it is wrong for government to discriminate in favour of, or against, any form of life animated by a definite conception of the good".[24]


John Rawls' "theory of 'political liberalism' conceives of toleration as a pragmatic response to the fact of diversity". Diverse groups learn to tolerate one another by developing "what Rawls calls 'overlapping consensus': individuals and groups with diverse metaphysical views or 'comprehensive schemes' will find reasons to agree about certain principles of justice that will include principles of toleration".[25]


Herbert Marcuse wrote A Critique of Pure Tolerance in 1965 where he argued that the "pure tolerance" that permits all favors totalitarianism, democracy, and tyranny of the majority, and insisted the "repressive tolerance" against them.


Tolerating the intolerant[edit]

Main article: Paradox of tolerance

Walzer, Karl Popper[26] and John Rawls[27] have discussed the paradox of tolerating intolerance. Walzer asks "Should we tolerate the intolerant?" He notes that most minority religious groups who are the beneficiaries of tolerance are themselves intolerant, at least in some respects.[28] Rawls argues that an intolerant sect should be tolerated in a tolerant society unless the sect directly threatens the security of other members of the society. He links this principle to the stability of a tolerant society, in which members of an intolerant sect in a tolerant society will, over time, acquire the tolerance of the wider society.


Other criticisms and issues[edit]

Toleration has been described as undermining itself via moral relativism: "either the claim self-referentially undermines itself or it provides us with no compelling reason to believe it. If we are skeptical about knowledge, then we have no way of knowing that toleration is good."[29]


Ronald Dworkin argues that in exchange for toleration, minorities must bear with the criticisms and insults which are part of the freedom of speech in an otherwise tolerant society.[30] Dworkin has also questioned whether the United States is a "tolerant secular" nation, or is re-characterizing itself as a "tolerant religious" nation, based on the increasing re-introduction of religious themes into conservative politics. Dworkin concludes that "the tolerant secular model is preferable, although he invited people to use the concept of personal responsibility to argue in favor of the tolerant religious model."[31]


In The End of Faith, Sam Harris asserts that society should be unwilling to tolerate unjustified religious beliefs about morality, spirituality, politics, and the origin of humanity, especially beliefs which promote violence


smantle the ADL: The Anti-Defamation League’s record of racist counterinsurgency and espionage


racked&dispatched@riseup.net


Zionism never spoke of itself unambiguously as a Jewish liberation move­ment, but rather as a Jewish movement for colonial settlement in the Orient.”


–Edward Said

“I first met with you in the spring of 2014, when I was relatively new on the job…


I sang your praises as an organization that fights for inclusivity and diversity, equality and justice…that works with us to fight hate crime and terrorism…


I labeled that last speech a love letter to the ADL. Three years later I can say, from the perspective of the FBI, we’re still in love with you.”


–FBI Director James Comey


The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) is a non-profit organization founded in 1913. Masquerading as a “civil rights” group, the ADL is a counterinsurgency organization with international reach. Its mission is to protect the mutual interests of the US and Israeli governments – and to eliminate solidarity among oppressed and colonized peoples, especially concerning Palestine.


The ADL carries out this mission by spying on and criminalizing activists, using its close connections to governments, police forces, schools, and corporations. When it is not directly attacking activists and organizers, the ADL undermines their work by pushing its own state-sanctioned, pro-Israel programs. And while the ADL claims to represent Jews and to fight “antisemitism” on their behalf, the organization has a record of supporting anti-Jewish state violence and normalizing Nazis.


The ADL wants to bury these facts, which is why it has been attempting to shut down the Mapping Project since it was released on June 3, 2022: pressuring web hosts and even a foreign government to take down our site, mobilizing the ADL’s partners in the FBI and district attorney’s office to try to criminalize our project, and getting politicians to parrot the ADL’s talking points. This behavior is consistent with the ADL’s over a century long record of counterinsurgency and espionage, which we review below.


Reaching the “Zenith of Deliberate Injustice”: The ADL persecutes communists and Jews


Liberal critics of the ADL mistakenly portray it as a “civil rights” group whose valuable work against racism is being “undermined” in recent years by its “Israel advocacy.” But the ADL’s history refutes this convenient narrative.


For one, the ADL and the order of B’nai B’rith that established it supported the zionist colonization of Palestine even prior to Israel’s founding in 1948. In the 1930s and ‘40s, B’nai B’rith funneled millions of dollars to the Jewish National Fund, an agency that works to dispossess Palestinians of their lands. The ADL sold millions of dollars’ worth of “Israel bonds” to support the new colony and also sent it “$4,000,000 worth of materials and goods” in 1948. And already in the 1950s, the ADL was trying to stifle the “boycott of Israel” and “boycott[s] against gentiles doing business with Israel,” and handle those “firms complying with the Arab boycott” – which sounds very much like the ADL’s recent anti-BDS work.


Moreover, since the ADL is invested in Jews assimilating into US white supremacy, and since the zionist project it supports requires the backing of imperial powers, the organization has served the US government’s repressive agenda from the start.


After the Bolsheviks took power in Russia in 1917, the ADL joined the US government’s persecution of communists and other radicals challenging capitalism. The ADL began a media campaign that suggested that all Jews are anticommunists who support the US state. The ADL also signaled its allegiance by keeping quiet on the US government’s crimes. When the US government forced Japanese people into concentration camps in the 1940s, this so-called “civil rights” group briefly noted the events in its publication without taking a position (decades later, ADL co-opted the injustices of Japanese internment to promote itself and the US government’s “apology” for these crimes).


In the 1950s, during the anticommunist campaign spearheaded by US senator Joseph McCarthy, the ADL began spying on dissident Jews, turning over files to the House Un-American Activities Committee and FBI. The ADL and allied groups created their own “anticommunist committees,” and started a “purge of the Jewish left from the organized Jewish community” (the American Jewish Committee even told the US Congress in 1953 that “Judaism and communism are utterly incompatible”). Groups like the ADL leveraged their image as “Jewish organizations” to claim the persecution of dissident Jews had nothing to do with anti-Jewish racism







eta; most of this could just be replaced with "capitalism" and the expectation that women fit a societal ideal of beauty and men are valued for their economic success and status is not a white american thing. american exceptionalism at its best

The Smithsonian webpage that hosted this flyer wrongly explains how trying to expect black people to have these traits is racist. What is racist is literally telling black kids that doing science is acting ‘white’.

The flyer is saying to  BIPOC kids that they shouldn't think rationally, or go into science or do work hard because in their twisted view those things are "white". That is a mentality which will make racial inequality even worse. 

Criminality, the culture of gangs and having an unstable family are products of poverty, and this flyer can be seen to enable those things

Though Science cannot tell you what is going on. It is impossible and people who literally worship science range from over-confident stans who just haven't thought about the question too hard or misguided phillistines who can't do more than memorize science as a set of facts. 

This flyer is a good argument for science to actually start with the history of science instead of the claims of standard model science.

Eh all non anglo white immigrnats are basically wasps now. idpol a bolish cat

As things stand with US idpol:

land is eternally bonded to one specific ethnicity
culture is inseparable from ethnicity
cultural admixture is suspect
racial guilt exists
racial separatism is good
racial hatred can be justified
violent reconquest of ethnic homelands is permissible
traditional ethnicity-based legal systems must be respected
I was tempted to say that the difference between modern idpol-based ethnonational and traditional ethnonationalism is that the former involves an extensive construction of an "oppressed" identity as the fundamental justification, but that's not true either. Historical ethnonationalism also hinged heavily on the idea of the fight against foreign oppressors, saboteurs and ethnic enemies. The only difference may be that modern idpol ethnonationalism is often supported by people outside the ethnicity, but that's it

. how much the "progressive" discourse in the USA aligns with ethno nationalist in Europe has always been a point of humour to me. You get these people who are shouting calling themselves progressive, and who talk way to similar t some local neo-nazis.

The tragic consequences of the ADL’s allegiance to the state were made clear in the case of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, a Jewish couple (and US citizens) accused of espionage by the US government. The ADL wrote letters to Jewish organizations instructing them not to support “any meetings or attempts to develop pro-Rosenberg sympathy” in their communities. In 1952, at the height of the vicious campaign against the Rosenbergs, the ADL declared:

The Communists, in their worldwide propaganda attack defending the con­victed atom spies, Ethel and Julius Rosenberg, provide a vivid example of the technique of falsely charging anti-Semitism to hide conspiracy.

With this blessing from the ADL, the US government executed Julius and Ethel Rosenberg by electrocution on June 19, 1953.

Unlike the ADL, some Jews at the time, from rabbis to poets, defended the Rosenbergs and tried to prevent their murder by the US government. Prominent Black activists, artists, and religious leaders also rallied to the Rosenbergs’ defense, including Paul Robeson and W. E. B. Du Bois (who wrote a poem about the couple). In January 1953, months before their execution, Du Bois called the persecution of the Rosenbergs “the zenith of deliberate injustice”:

…in the case of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg we reach the zenith of deliberate injustice. We are set to kill a mother and father and orphan their little children because we think that they believe in social remedies for evident ills which many others do not believe. This is the main charge…we use perjurers to say the Rosenbergs gave to the Soviet Union information which the Rosenbergs never possessed. We promise them pardon if they will betray persons they never knew and give information they never had.

This awful crime we threaten to commit in order to protect a nation which thinks it needs this sacrifice of blood to save its soul. Such a soul is not worth saving.

The ADL gave cover to this zenith of injustice, which hasn’t stopped it from also co-opting Du Bois in recent years and watering down his radical message. The organization has since continued to criminalize those who fight against injustice, especially if they also dare to challenge zionism.

The ADL is a counterinsurgency and surveillance group with international reach

The ADL is a highly funded group: according to tax records, in 2020 ADL reported over $221 million in assets and over $91 million in total revenue, with roughly $85 million coming from donations (ADL generally doesn’t disclose the identities of its donors). The ADL uses its considerable resources to surveil and stifle organizations and individuals that challenge white supremacy, zionism, or US imperialism, along with liberal groups that don’t but are still considered a threat to the ADL’s agenda. We provide only a few illustrative examples below.

Defaming Black organizations that challenge white supremacy

During the 1960s, the ADL and other zionist groups attacked Black organizations in the US that fought against white supremacy and correctly linked zionism and racism.

In 1967, the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) published an article in its newsletter that accurately described zionism as a colonial movement premised on white supremacy. The article explained that the zionist project “received maximum help, support and encouragement from Great Britain, the United States, and other white western colonial governments,” noting that this support made it possible for colonizers to take over lands and homes of non-Jewish Palestinians through “terror, force, and massacres,” wiping out Palestinian villages in order to create “Israel.” The article gave statistics that showed that native Palestinian Jews were a small minority in Palestine at the time of the 1917 Balfour Declaration. The subsequent influx of Jews into Palestine, as the article argues, was part of a colonization effort that aimed to get rid of non-Jewish Palestinians and take their land (thus turning many Palestinians into refugees).

The SNCC article argued that this zionist colonization of Palestine fit within a broader imperialist agenda, noting that the 1947 United Nations Partition Plan was at first endorsed by “only by white European, American and Australasian states” – and that “ISRAELWAS PLANTED AT THE CROSSROADS OF ASIA AND AFRICA WITHOUT THE FREE APPROVAL OF ANY MIDDLE-EASTERN, ASIAN OR AFRICAN COUNTRY!”

Finally, the article pointed out that zionism is a form of white supremacy that harms Jews as well: “dark skinned Jews from the Middle-East and North Africa are second-class citizens in Israel” because “the color line puts them in inferior position to the white, European Jews.” The article also acknowledged that Jews “who are not Zionists and cannot support the horrors committed by Zionists in the name of Judaism have spoken out,” but that their voices were being systematically suppressed.

The SNCC article, in short, was too truthful about zionism – so the ADL had to step in.

In an August 1967 Jewish Telegraphic Agency bulletin, the ADL called SNCC a “Negro extremist” organization, accusing it of “Anti-Semitism” and comparing it to the KKK. Dore Schary, then ADL’s national chairman, stated in the 1967 bulletin that the ADL considers SNCC’s support for the Palestinian struggle to be “a tragedy in the race relations,” adding that:

‘Snick’ [SNCC] is no longer a responsible civil rights group. It ties itself to the Chinese-Soviet and now Arab propaganda machines in the United States…I do not think the majority of Negroes go along…‘Snick’ represents a minuscule minority of the Negro people. Americans generally rejected this kind of extremism, whether it comes from a group like ‘Snick’ or one like the Ku Klux Klan. It is an irony that ‘Snick’ should tie itself to the Arab cause when an Arab country, Saudi Arabia, still maintains slavery.”

The ADL has continued to vilify Black social movements against white supremacy and to condescendingly tell them what counts as “responsible” resistance. In 2016, the ADL attacked the Movement for Black Lives for its statement of solidarity with the Palestinian struggle, calling it “Anti-Semitic.” As Emmaia Gelman wrote, grassroots organizations oppose the ADL precisely because the organization undermines the work of “internationalist, intersectional anti-racism.” For this reason, parents, teachers, and staff asked the New York Department of Education in 2018 not to partner with the ADL, and called out the ADL’s usual maneuver of first suppressing and then co-opting social justice movements:

As a white-led corporate NGO, the ADL’s disrespect for rising leadership in communities of color is appalling. In 2016, the ADL denounced the Movement for Black Lives policy platform emerging from Black Lives Matter, because it linked Black and Palestinian experiences of violence and opposed genocide. The ADL scolded M4BL to “keep your eyes on the prize” by “sticking to” work that the ADL deemed appropriate. Disturbingly, the ADL now offers lesson plans on Black Lives Matter.

In 2020, a variety of social justice groups, including Palestinian Youth Movement and Critical Resistance, similarly called on grassroots organizations and various institutions to drop the ADL because of its “pattern of attacking social justice movements led by communities of color, queer people, immigrants, Muslims, Arabs, and other marginalized groups, while aligning itself with police, right-wing leaders, and perpetrators of state violence.”

n 2020, a variety of social justice groups, including Palestinian Youth Movement and Critical Resistance, similarly called on grassroots organizations and various institutions to drop the ADL because of its “pattern of attacking social justice movements led by communities of color, queer people, immigrants, Muslims, Arabs, and other marginalized groups, while aligning itself with police, right-wing leaders, and perpetrators of state violence.”

Surveilling and criminalizing Palestinian and Arab activists – and anyone who might show solidarity with the Palestinian struggle

The ADL’s counterinsurgency efforts have largely been aimed at Palestinian and other Arab organizations that support the Palestinian liberation struggle. The ADL has surveilled, smeared, and even infiltrated such groups in attempts to frame them as “antisemites.”

A letter from July 7, 1961, written by then ADL national director Benjamin Epstein, explains the goal of these espionage operations:

Anti-Defamation League for many years maintained a very important, confidential investigative coverage of Arab activities and propaganda…we have maintained an information-gathering operation since 1948 relating to activities emanating from the Arab Consular Offices, Arab United Nations Delegations, Arab Information Center, Arab Refugee Office and the Organization of Arab Students…

Our information in addition to being essential for our operations, has been of great value and service to both the United States State Department and the Israeli government. All data have been made available to both countries with full knowledge to each that we were the source…In many cases our information has exposed Arab plans before they have been put into effect. [emphases added]

The ADL used its connections on college campuses to engage in such surveillance. In 1983, ADL created a booklet with names of individuals and organizations that the organization considers as “pro-Arab propagandists,” and according to the New York Times, “the list, stamped ‘confidential,’ was mailed to several dozen campus Jewish leaders in November 1983 by the Anti-Defamation League’s New England office.” The booklet came with a cover letter from then ADL of New England’s executive director Leonard Zakim stating: “Should you need more information on these individual groups or any others, please call us. Also, if you have any knowledge of any individuals or groups not listed in the booklet, please pass the information on to us so that we can have a more complete and useful listing.”

But this booklet was only one small part of the espionage operation the ADL carried out in the mid to late twentieth century.

The wide scope of this operation became clearer in the 1990s, when the ADL was forced to settle in a lawsuit following revelations that it had worked with police in California to spy on organizations and individuals.

The files that emerged from the lawsuit show that the ADL had surveilled over 10,000 individuals and over 900 organizations engaged in a variety of causes – from Palestinian and Indigenous liberation to various anti-racist and migrant justice work, labor organizing, and gay liberation. This broad net was meant to catch any organization that might show solidarity with the Palestinian struggle or otherwise threaten US-Israeli interests. The files also confirm that the ADL colluded with governments, turning over information on anti-apartheid Black activists to the South African Apartheid government and information on Palestinian activists to the Israeli government.

The organizations that the ADL spied on included:

General Union of Palestinians Students (GUPS)
Institute for Palestine Studies
Palestine Congress of North America
Palestine Human Rights Campaign
Palestine National Council
Palestine Solidarity Committee
Search for Justice and Equality in Palestine
The Organization of Arab Students in the United States and Canada
Association of Arab-American University Graduates
League of Arab Students
American Jewish Alternatives to Zionism
Jewish Alliance Against Zionism
Union of Iranian Students
as well as:

American Indian Movement (AIM)
National Indian Treaty Council
Asian Law Caucus
Japanese-American Citizens League
ACT UP
Centro Legal de la Raza
Irish Northern Aid

The San Francisco Labor Council and 20 trade union locals were also surveilled. The ADL also tracked individuals, from graduate students to prominent writers such as Edward Said, Walid Khalidi, Eqbal Ahmad, and Noam Chomsky.

The ADL used two key informants for their espionage operation in California: Tom Gerard, a San Francisco police officer, and Roy Bullock, a former weight lifter who presented himself to the activists he spied on as an “art dealer.”

Some of the people spied on by these ADL informants wound up dead.

One individual the ADL spied on in California was Alex Odeh, a Palestinian who served as the west coast regional director of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee (ADC). Odeh was killed in 1985 when his Los Angeles office was bombed by pro-Israel activists, after which investigators found a key and the floor plan to Odeh’s office in the files which the ADL-hired spy, Roy Bullock, had compiled on Odeh. 

Another individual the ADL spied on was prominent Black South African activist Chris Hani, who was assassinated in South Africa on April 10, 1993, shortly after a speaking tour in California. While on tour, Hani was followed by one of the ADL-hired police officers who prepared a lengthy report on Hani for the South African apartheid government. Israel, of course, long supported and armed South Africa’s apartheid government, and with the ADL’s help hoped to eliminate the solidarity between the Palestinian and South African liberation struggles. The ADL and Israel understood that such solidarity could increase the use of shared tactics such as boycotts and divestments against both regimes. (Publicly, the ADL pretended to be critical of South Africa’s apartheid while downplaying Israel’s alliance with the regime, and later lobbied for post-apartheid South African politicians to support Israel.)

The ADL continues to surveil and encourage infiltration of groups that challenge white supremacy today. Following the white supremacist attacks in Charlottesville Virginia in 2017, ADL created a “primer for law enforcement” in which it encouraged US police to film and plant undercover agents in anti-racist and anti-fascist groups in order to gather intel for prosecution.

The ADL promotes a racist, pro-Israel agenda by working with police forces, schools, and corporations

In addition to attacking organizations that challenge white supremacy and zionism, the ADL also promotes a pro-Israel agenda by working closely with US police, as well as schools and corporations.

One of the ADL’s main channels to police is through trainings. The ADL conducted its first police training in February 1951, titled “The Policeman and His Role in the Field of Human Relations,” to an audience of fifty police officers. The ADL saw the police as key to ensuring the civil rights movement didn’t get too radical. In its 1964 report, the ADL described “an increasing tendency toward extremism in both white and Negro communities,” adding that “police forces and other law enforcement agencies have an increasingly crucial role these days in maintaining peaceful and harmonious relations in the community.” The report states that the ADL had at that time provided trainings for “more than 130 top police executives from 31 states.”

The ADL has since expanded its trainings for police substantially, while centering cops in its “educational” materials and downplaying the structural racism of US society. In the 1980s, the ADL’s “A World of Difference” program, supposedly meant to “combat prejudice” in schools, heavily featured the police (who the ADL absurdly referred to as a “community organization”).

As Emmaia Gelman writes, various anti-racist and queer groups opposed ADL’s “A World of Difference” because it “presented a narrow view of bias that elevated the Nazi holocaust and minimized experiences from slavery to internment” and “taught Islamophobia rather than challenging it.” These groups also called out the ADL’s omission of anti-gay violence from its programs “at a moment when it was a key project of white supremacists and predominant among ‘bias crimes,’ exacerbated by the AIDS crisis.” Because it is invested in white supremacy, the ADL also opposed the most modest anti-racist policies that such groups have advocated, like affirmative action in college admissions.

But resistance to the ADL’s racism from activists didn’t matter to the organization; it was set on working with the cops.

The attacks of September 11, 2001 gave the ADL an opportunity to expand its relationships with US police. In the climate of heightened anti-Arab and anti-Muslim racism, the ADL ramped up its police trainings, arranging all-expenses-paid trips to the “National Counterterrorism Seminar in Israel” for US police and related agencies. By 2016, the ADL could boast in an annual report that “100% of major U.S. metropolitan police departments have sent participants to the ADL’s National Counterterrorism Seminar in Israel and the ADL’s Advanced Training School in Extremist and Terrorist Threats.” Through these collaborations, the ADL encourages domestic police to identify with Israel, to view Palestinians as “terrorists,” and to see those who speak or act in solidarity with Palestinians as “terrorist sympathi

As the Mapping Project has documented, Israel is frequently “a point of reference” for policing and counterinsurgency in the US. It’s not that the US needs Israel to teach it colonial brutality and counterinsurgency but rather that the two regimes continually exchange notes and tactics. The colonization of Palestine produces methods that can be applied not only in Jenin but also Los Angeles and Baghdad; it’s also telling that the Israeli army called the fake Palestinian town it has built for practicing urban warfare “Chicago.”

In our local area, the ADL of New England coordinates annual junkets to Israel to foster these exchanges. On these trips, Massachusetts police officials learn about “counterterrorism” from Israeli state agents (see appendix below for more information on ADL of New England). The ADL of New England used the 2013 Boston Marathon bombings and the outpouring of anti-Muslim racism that followed as a pretext for expanding such programs, much like the national ADL used the attacks of September 11, 2001. The ADL of New England sponsored Israel trips for numerous municipal police forces, as well as for Boston’s field office of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), New England’s Homeland Security Department, US Marshalls Service, US Secret Service, various County Sheriffs’ offices, and university police forces. The ADL of New England’s director Robert Trestan explained that these trips are meant to align local policing tactics with Israeli ones:

It is critical that Massachusetts police departments be able to equally prevent and respond to crime while protecting us from the threat of terrorism. The Israel national police have been on the frontline combating terror for decades and are able to share their firsthand experience in keeping the public safe despite multiple threats. 

Even when the trainings take place in the US, Israel is there. In 2019, for instance, ADL of New England coordinated a “Law Enforcement Seminar” in Foxboro, MA that featured presentations from an “Israeli counterterrorism expert” on “The Ten Commandments of Counterterrorism” and “Actionable Strategies for Securing Events and Open Spaces in Communities.” The ADL of New England also produced multiple dossiers on “extremism” which they shared with New England police departments. Moreover, the ADL is listed as an “official partner” of the Boston and Massachusetts Countering Violent Extremism (CVE) programs – programs that, as the Muslim Justice League noted, work to “falsely legitimize discrimination against Muslims and dissidents.”

he ADL’s activities are profoundly shaped by the US government’s interests abroad. As is well-documented, Israel has long backed the US’s imperialist agenda by training, arming, and spying on behalf of US-backed regimes across the world. The ADL plays a supporting role in this alliance: it smears governments that threaten US and Israeli interests as “antisemitic,” while downplaying or ignoring the crimes of US-backed regimes.

The ADL’s work in Latin America, which began prior to 1948, provides illuminating examples. As the ADL’s 1941 report states, the organization used its connections to Jewish communities in Latin America to promote a US-friendly agenda. The ADL collected information about the region’s “good-will movements, democratic trends and Fifth Column Activities,” and sought to strengthen “Pan-American ties” while keeping track of “subversive activities in other nations.”

As the ADL’s later work in the region shows, “subversive activities” is code for developments that threaten the US-Israeli agenda.

Consider Chile, for example, where Salvador Allende, a socialist, served as the elected president until he was assassinated in 1973 in a US-backed coup. Although Allende had expressed support for Israel, his government’s plans to nationalize industries threatened US capitalist interests. Zionists were also worried that Allende’s left-wing government might show solidarity with the Palestinian struggle.

The director of the ADL’s “Latin American Affairs Department,” Morton Rosenthal, then smeared Allende, employing racist tropes that equate Jews with capitalism. In a 1971 article titled “Jews in Marxist Chile – On the Way Out?”, Rosenthal concluded that:

The long term prognosis for Jewish communities of Latin America is not hopeful. As capitalists, they will be hurt by spreading socialism. As Jews they will be targets for followers of Moscow and nationalistic anti-Semitic elements who view them as alien. As part of the ‘establishment,’ they will be targets for the impoverished and exploited masses now groping for revolutionary changes in the social order and an end to their marginal, often sub-human, conditions.

Allende’s government was replaced by the military dictatorship of Augusto Pinochet, who was supported by both the US and Israel, and Chile became a testing ground for the neoliberal policies crafted by right-wing US economists and their protégés – policies enforced under Pinochet’s regime of mass executions, torture, and disappearances of socialists and other dissidents.

The story is similar in Nicaragua. The Somoza family took power in Nicaragua with US assistance in the 1930s and was friendly to US corporations seeking to exploit Nicaragua’s workers and natural resources. Both the US and Israel supported the Somoza dictatorship against the socialist Sandinistas. (The Somozas had ties to zionist groups prior to 1948, and sold weapons to the Haganah zionist militia.) In 1979, the Sandinistas went against US interests by overthrowing the Somoza government. The US and Israel trained and armed the Nicaraguan contras, which fought against the Sandinistas and were known for their brutal massacres and rapes. Israel, which was the major arms provider to US-backed militias in Central America in the 1970s, sent weapons captured from the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) to the contras. The Sandinista government, which had a relationship with the PLO, cut diplomatic ties with Israel after Israel bombed Lebanon in 1982.

Predictably, the ADL began smearing the Sandinistas as “antisemites.” The ADL’s Latin America “expert” Morton Rosenthal accused the Sandinista government in 1983 of “exiling” the “entire Jewish community” of Nicaragua, claiming this was a result of the Sandinistas’ “solidarity” with the PLO. These charges were refuted, including by a delegation of Jews from the US that visited Nicaragua and reported that they “found nothing to substantiate charges of anti-Semitism by the ruling Sandinista government.” In fact, the ADL had falsely presented the experiences of a handful of right-wing Jewish families with strong business ties to the Somoza family as representative of Nicaragua’s “entire Jewish community.” Rosenthal later backpedaled. Yet, as the Washington Post noted at the time, after ADL’s campaign “the Reagan administration has added anti-Semitism to its accusations against the Nicaraguans,” and US politicians began condemning Nicaragua’s “government-sponsored antisemitism.”

As the Los Angeles Times reported, the campaign claiming the Sandinista government was “antisemitic” was revived in 1985, “less than a month before [US] Congress is expected to vote on a $14-million aid package to fund anti-Sandinista rebels in Nicaragua.” The Somoza-supporting Nicaraguan Jewish families that the ADL based its charges of “antisemitism” on, by then living in the US, participated in the campaign, and appeared in press conference alongside contra leaders. Even the Los Angeles Times acknowledged that this campaign might have something to do with the Reagan administration’s interest in toppling the Sandinista government, and the fact that the Sandinista government supported the PLO and had cast votes against Israel in the United Nations.

In the same year, the ADL published propaganda to cover up Israel’s extensive support for US-backed militias around the world, claiming that Israel works with “Third World countries to help them improve their economies through self-help projects,” aiding farming, health care, and labor organization (as opposed to profiting from arms sales, raising international support for zionism, and doing the US’s bidding).

In recent years, the ADL has continued to watch over Latin America, taking positions that magically mirror those of the US government. Consider two examples:

Venezuela: The US has been attempting to overthrow the Maduro government in Venezula, which has resisted US encroachment while the country has been suffering from US sanctions. Unsurprisingly, the ADL labeled Maduro’s government as “antisemitic,” systematically interpreting every reference to “Zionist” as synonymous with “Jewish,” while claiming that Venezuela is under “the influence of Iran, and its proxy Hezbollah.” In 2019, Juan Guaidó, the politician the US hoped to install in place of Maduro, brazenly declared himself president of Venezuela in hopes of catalyzing a coup. The US and its allies quickly recognized Guaidó, although he had never been elected. The ADL, as expected, referred to Guaidó as “declared interim President Juan Guaidó, whose bid to take over the government is supported by more than 50 countries.”

Brazil: The Bolsonaro government in Brazil is notoriously white supremacist. The government has systematically attacked Brazil’s Indigenous communities, making way for US corporations that exploit Brazil’s resources. Bolsonaro has associated with contemporary Nazis, while some officials in his government have echoed Nazi propaganda. He was also endorsed by former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke, who said Bolsonaro “sounds like us” and praised him for “talking about the demographic disaster that exists in Brazil and the enormous crime that exists there, in the black neighborhoods of Rio de Janeiro.” But Bolsonaro is a close ally of the US and Israel, which is why the ADL hasn’t launched a major campaign against his government, but only condemned his egregiously racist behavior when it got media attention and was condemned by other zionist groups and avoiding comment was impossible.

The ADL will also deny historical atrocities when doing so suits the interests of the US and Israel. The ADL long denied that the Armenians suffered a genocide under the Ottoman Empire in the early twentieth century. This reflected the position of the US and Israel, who have long been allied with Turkey, a NATO member, that denies the genocide. Israel also arms Turkey, including through Israeli companies such as Elbit. The ADL was strongly criticized by Armenian communities in the US for its genocide denial, and later by US politicians when the US government’s position shifted. Eventually, the ADL was forced to apologize and acknowledge the Armenian genocide. It’s notable that this eventual acknowledgment came only after US and Israeli relations with Turkey began to grow more strained over a series of confrontations set off by the war in Iraq, and after the Turkish government gave open support to breaking the Israeli siege on Gaza.

All these cases illustrate how the ADL’s positions have nothing to do with facts or history but are narrowly pinned to Israeli and US imperial interests.

The ADL sanitizes Nazis when doing so aligns with US imperial interests

The ADL’s allegiance to US empire can lead it to sanitize threats of racist violence, even from Nazis. The current situation in Ukraine demonstrates this fact.

Prior to the recent war in Ukraine, in 2019, the ADL reported that the Azov battalion – a Nazi-filled group that is now part of the Ukrainian national guard – “has ties to neo-Nazis and white supremacists.” But when the war that the US government and weapons companies are deeply invested in broke out, the ADL began downplaying Ukrainian Nazis. Responding to the war, the ADL stated in February 2022 that “Ukraine is a democracy with equal rights for its Jewish citizens, including the right to be elected to its highest office, as President Zelensky has demonstrated,” and suggested that reports of Nazi elements in Ukraine’s government are “antisemitic” and amount to Russian state propaganda. The US state department later adopted the same line, asserting that “To Vilify Ukraine, The Kremlin Resorts to Antisemitism.”

The ADL proceeded to promote materials that downplay Ukrainian Nazism. In March 2022, the ADL published an interview of David Fishman, a Jewish Theological Seminary professor, conducted by ADL Director of European Affairs Andrew Srulevitch, titled “Why is Putin Calling the Ukrainian Government a Bunch of Nazis?” In the interview, Srulevitch asked Fishman about segments of the contemporary Ukrainian nationalist movement that venerate Stepan Bandera and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (also known as UPA), who are known to have collaborated with the Nazis during World War II. (Members of the Azov battalion, for example, revere Bandera and the UPA.) Fishman responded: “For Ukrainian nationalists, UPA and Bandera are symbols of the Ukrainian fight for Ukrainian independence. The UPA allied with Nazi Germany against the Soviet Union for tactical – not ideological – reasons.” 

But as Daniel Lazare notes in a 2015 article about Bandera, “although Bandera and his followers would later try to paint the alliance with the Third Reich as no more than ‘tactical,’ an attempt to pit one totalitarian state against another, it was in fact deep-rooted and ideological.” Bandera and his supporters, Lazare explains, “played a leading role in the anti-Jewish pogroms that broke out in Lviv and dozens of other Ukrainian cities on the heels of the German invasion,” and “served the Nazis by patrolling the ghettoes and assisting in deportations, raids and shootings.” In recent years, the Ukrainian government has named streets after Bandera and other Nazi collaborators, and officially embraced groups such as the UPA as national heroes.

Despite this record, as Electronic Intifada reported, ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt featured the interview with Fishman in an ADL national newsletter with the framing that “anti-Semitic conspiracy theories and other misinformation are spreading in the wake of the invasion.” (Imagine what the ADL’s response might have been if a country that wasn’t allied with the US had a Nazi army unit like the Azov battalion, one in which soldiers have swastika tattoos and whose commander once said his nation must “lead the White Races of the world in a final crusade for their survival…against the Semite-led Untermenschen.”)

Much like the ADL’s insistence seventy years earlier that defenders of Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were “falsely charging anti-Semitism to hide conspiracy,” the ADL’s framing of the war in Ukraine shows that the organization is willing to excuse anti-Jewish violence when doing so aligns with the geopolitical objectives of the US government. 

The ADL’s position on Ukraine isn’t unique; there is a broader and disturbing push by zionists to sanitize Ukrainian Nazism given the US-backed war. Some zionist organizations have been trying to rehabilitate the image of the Azov battalion, which ironically is armed by Israel. The Times of Israel, a newspaper owned by hedge-fund billionaire and zionist donor Seth Klarman – whose foundation gave over $3.6 million to the ADL between 2001-2019 – tried to convince readers that a group of armed Nazis with swastika tattoos isn’t as bad as it might seem. The Times of Israel’s March 2022 interview with Jewish Ukrainian nationalist Konstantyn Batoszky attempted to pull off this feat:

“I was shocked when I saw guys with swastika tattoos,” he [Batozsky] said about the Azov members he got to know. “But I talked with them all the time about being Jewish and they had nothing negative to say. They had no anti-Jewish ideology.”

He insists that the image of Ukraine as a hotbed of antisemitism is absurd.

“I don’t practice, but still everyone knows I am Jewish – I have such a Jewish face! And I never experienced antisemitism from Ukrainians,” he insisted. “The military guys I am working with now really don’t care that I am a Jew.”

Because of their commitment to US empire, zionists end up condoning Nazis in these absurd ways.

Despite the ADL’s atrocious record, we often hear that the group nonetheless collects valuable information about racist incidents and white supremacist groups, and ADL’s statistics are frequently cited – sometimes even by independent anti-fascist or anti-racist organizations. Unfortunately, any potentially useful information the ADL might collect gets distorted by the organization’s own racist agenda: its advocacy for a white-supremacist colonial project in Palestine, its commitment to strengthening US police forces, and its devotion to US imperialism. The ADL’s statistics on “antisemitism” are hopelessly confounded with challenges to Israel and zionism, and as many have observed, the ADL doesn’t even say how exactly these statistics are compiled, making the numbers useless.

Pro-Palestine people calling Jewish immigrants to Israel "colonizers" are indirectly calling for an ethno-state, while falsely accusing Israel of apartheid.
Whenever diaspora Jews make Aliyah, most pro-Palestine people accuse them of being "colonizers" and "invaders." Claiming that since these diaspora Jews were born and raised outside of Israel, they have no right to be in Israel. Let's for the sake of argument assume that diaspora Jews have no connection to the land. Like that you'd be calling for an ethno-state, or at least an an

ISRAEL. A SETTLER COLONY

A nation state that keeps killing its neighbors and expanding its borders is an empire.


Strange as it may sound today, many secular European Jews at the turn of the previous century saw a tacit bond between Zionism and anarchism. Ghettoized and excluded from the national ethos of their own countries, they gravitated towards tendencies that—in their personal lives, if not in the eyes of history—offered opposing magnetic polarities to push back with: anarchism, Marxism, and Zionism. Ironically, as documented by anarchist writers like Voline in Russia, large parts of the Jewish ghettos perceived Zionism to be the craziest and most utopian of the three.

So, in what could be seen as a precursor to the pitfalls of modern identity politics, the ties binding the old anarchists to their Jewish identity enabled their Umanità Nova, their vision of a new humanity, to be folded into and superseded by Zionism’s vision of a new Jewry, the “Muscle Jew” of Israel, set to replace the frightened ghetto one. On the ground, one of the forms this supersession took was the fast-paced morph of egalitarian Kibbutzim communities into strategic colonial instruments at the hands of a nascent state bent on driving indigenous populations off the land.

Fuck all states, but especially fuc


whole “you can’t criticize Israel because it’s antisemitic” is so done in bad faith. Zionists know that when people criticize Israel (in good faith), they aren’t even talking about the individual Israelis living there - much less specifically those who are Jewish. It’s an easy way to shut down that conversation for them. 

Do people mask their antisemitism behind criticism of Israel? Absolutely. The same way people do with sinophobia and China (as a state power). And that is absolutely inappropriate and problematic. And we have a duty to call out those who are being antisemitic


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The irony of this infographic (and BLM as well) bemoaning the nuclear family really gets under my skin. Like, do you seriously not see the correlation between fatherless black families and negative life outcomes for the kids? You want to erode that even further? If anything, we need to figure out how to get two parents into as many families as possible.
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Agree. But there is definitely a strain of Marxism today that is anti family that is troubling

Majority rules (when Whites have power)

... like... democracy?

the part where they talk about being on time and working hard as a particularly white thing is pretty racist. Is this even real do you have a link?
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This isn't to say that Rugged Individualism and understanding time as a resource aren't bullshit. They are. But we can very easily trace these to the raise of industrial capitalism. They aren't caused by the presence of one race and they're not found exclusively among certain races.

And what the fuck are we just straight up saying black people aren't polite? Why not include a watermelon and chicken reference in here, while we're at it.

Western culture being known for its completely homogeneity. Yanks, man, I fucking swear

whole “you can’t criticize Israel because it’s antisemitic” is so done in bad faith. Zionists know that when people criticize Israel (in good faith), they aren’t even talking about the individual Israelis living there - much less specifically those who are Jewish. It’s an easy way to shut down that conversation for them.

Do people mask their antisemitism behind criticism of Israel? Absolutely. The same way people do with sinophobia and China (as a state power). And that is absolutely inappropriate and problematic. And we have a duty to call out those who are being antisemitic

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Wealth = worth
Your job is who you are
Man's attractiveness based on economic status, power, intellect
Isn't this basically the same in China or India?
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Judeo-Christian" isn't even a real descriptor. No society has ever identified as "Judeo-Christian". The founding fathers of the US did not intend to use "Judeo-Christian" ethics or morals, they intended to use Christian ones. While the US was built on these values, they are not influenced by Jewish culture hardly at all
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lmao beware of white people showing up places on time
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You know what was on time too? Trains in fascist Italy! Boom! That's whiteness for you

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I love how they say women are suppose to look like barbies and men just need to gain power as if making a 100k a year will certify to be a male stripper and men aren't attracted to rich or influential women

Fucking fuck this pisses me right off. They are complete correct about the work ethic shit and the toxic individualism... but then they make it a fucking race thing? What a bunch of braindrained crayon-munching retards.

TIL the scientific method is white supremacy
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some of these don't make any sense, like what the fuck is "rational linear thinking" in a societal context? Thirdly, are these people implying that these traits are not things that African Americans generally possess or should view as a positive? Like yeah stop planning for the future guys that's a white thing to do.

This totally forgets social democratic Scandinavian countries are a thing

Humanity is screwed

Anti scientific method and logical thinking?

And anti being on time?

What the actual fuck.

It’s like they’re being racist against themselves.

But they’re only describing woke people. All the conservative black Americans or immigrants from the West Indies are all very much about these virtues.

This is fucking beyond stupid.

It’s promoting ignorance as a virtue. It’s fucking insanity.

man why

eta; most of this could just be replaced with "capitalism" and the expectation that women fit a societal ideal of beauty and men are valued for their economic success and status is not a white american thing. american exceptionalism at its best
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Wait I thought we had no culture. Now I dont know what to believe.

straight up think when someone starts talking about a specific race as a culture is just racist thinking. African Americans to Jamaicans, both the same race right? Not the same culture. Or how about China to Japan, both Asian definitely not the same culture. England to Russia, mostly white, different cultures. Culture has nothing to do with skin colour and to simply categorize someone because of that is racism.

Doesn't this entirely depend on how you take it? If you think this is an attack on all things white you'll hate it. Anyone who views whites as not having culture will hate it. Other than bland is best, and subordinate women, arent some of these positives aswell. Or did I miss the memo an we are all just shitting on it?

children having their own rooms
the ONLY factor that has EVER determined whether children share rooms is income. there is no family of any race in this country that has several extra bedrooms but the kids share anyways. smaller homes (bc of relative lack of wealth) + big families (often also associated with poverty) = children share rooms. and again, the point they are, i PRAY, trying to make is that the expectation that children will have their own room, or that it's a problem if they don't, can be an aspect of white supremacy or, lbr, the privileged being blind to the lived experiences of those who aren't , but what they're actually saying is monumentally stupid AND, as with several points made in this graphic, seems to suggest that the impacts of poverty are in fact a racial characteristic, and therefore their roots (aka poverty!!!!) shouldn't be addressed at the source. which is really disturbing.

rd work is great and all, but the idea that it’s enough to lift most poor people out of poverty is corporate propaganda designed to ensure they won’t have to help the proletariat.

concept of hard work is racist and contributes to whiteness

I really don’t understand how people live off of the fruits of Western society and then pull this shit. Of course things aren’t as good as they could be. Of course there are glaring issues in the West and in America and in every civilization ever.

But it’s so very difficult to understand how somebody can have such a hatred for the current state of society that they begin to try to find ways to throw out every traditional value they can find. Hard work and individualism aren’t exclusive to white people and white culture. Unfuckingbelievable

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“Objective, rational linear thinking” tfw all POCs are labeled as irrational
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This kind of blatant assimilation of white culture cannot go unchallenged! On the other hand it would fill up many many gallery extensions in the risibly named museum. Sort of a path to success amongst the culturally disadvantaged African-Americans.
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This is wild. I've been staring at this thing off and on since I saw it this morning.

This is truly racial supremacist shit. Like the Savitri Devi esoteric Nazi theories that are like Hotep Studies for whites. But sold back to white people who think they now better understand their black employees and know how to make them worker harder and more productively.

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Christianity is the Norm Anything other than Judeo-Christian Tradition is foreign

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Fuck this I love steak and potatoes

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Okay, reading this over, I have a few objections:

Yes, these are all stereotypes, not just of white culture, but a particular type of white culture, mainly middle and upper-middle class white culture, but it's ignoring the role of class entirely.
I don't think you can completely separate capitalism and its effects on culture from values associated with WASPs, because WASPs have been dominant in using capitalism as a means of securing and maintaining power.

hey're literally parroting white supremacist rhetoric. Wokies don't realize that they're playing right into racists hands with stuff like this. They'll tell white people that they're problematic, and that they need to reexamine their internalized racism. But what happens when some alt right fucker rolls up to the insecure white boy who's been reading all this and tells him hes actually better than everyone else, and that they're just trying to keep him down? That guy now has a choice between the side that tells him hes trash and that he needs to change, and the side that tells him hes perfect and simply above the lesser people. And if this keeps up, hes not gonna side with the left

jhggffffffgggggg


I'm unironically of the opinion at this point that if Trump wins due to this BS, the left absolutely deserves it for being this retardedly counterproductive.
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I think it might be an emphasis on the scientific method over spirituality or mysticism?

Some people pit that against science, including feelings/emotions.  So perhaps this is just my lack of knowledge of famous atheists, but the only black atheist I can come up with off the top of my head is Neil DeGrasse Tyson (and I’m not even sure he’s an atheist). If that kind of thinking is associated with atheism (and I would suggest that it is) and there are few prominent black atheists (I have no idea if this is true) perhaps that is why that kind of thinking is associated with whiteness? I don’t know if that makes any sense

They're literally parroting white supremacist rhetoric. Wokies don't realize that they're playing right into racists hands with stuff like this. They'll tell white people that they're problematic, and that they need to reexamine their internalized racism. But what happens when some alt right fucker rolls up to the insecure white boy who's been reading all this and tells him hes actually better than everyone else, and that they're just trying to keep him down? That guy now has a choice between the side that tells him hes trash and that he needs to change, and the side that tells him hes perfect and simply above the lesser people. And if this keeps up, hes not gonna side with the left.
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e alt-right. They fight like catty teenagers and are all idiots. It will be a Moldbug or BAP adherent with a trad Catholic influence who emerges because they are actually intelligent. Someone like Peter Thiel

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the concept of hard work is racist and contributes to whiteness

I really don’t understand how people live off of the fruits of Western society and then pull this shit. Of course things aren’t as good as they could be. Of course there are glaring issues in the West and in America and in every civilization ever.

But it’s so very difficult to understand how somebody can have such a hatred for the current state of society that they begin to try to find ways to throw out every traditional value they can find. Hard work and individualism aren’t exclusive to white people and white culture. Unfuckingbelievable
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Putting aside for a moment this amazing phrase (Single God Concept is surely a punk band somewhere), 47% of black Americans attend church weekly compared to 37% of white Americans.

this supposed to be a criticism or just an observation? It's a cliched and fairly antiquated interpretation of European-American culture, but I'm not seeing any "Whites instinctively want to own PoCs as property" or anything unhinged like that. It also doesn't seem to be saying that all of these things are inherently negative, and unless there is more context wherever this appears they don't seem to be describing it as "white supremacy".

I don't know, this doesn't bother me a great deal

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